NH rep affirms pot civil dis in House speech – Marijuana
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January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
The fight against …
The fight against herbs and natural ‘drugs’ (I can’t believe that actual plants are labelled as drugs) is RETARDED. Let people do what they want within their own homes. Typical government trying to play as your parent, giving you slap on your wrist.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
If you smoke weed …
If you smoke weed you are a threat to the government and big business. You are also more likely to be liberal because you are using your brain and do not beleive government lies. The war on drugs is used to disenfranchise people and keep them from getting a job or to vote in a lot of states.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
I could really care …
I could really care less about inane laws from control freaks, and I smoke pot freely anywhere I choose.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
You use Clarence …
You use Clarence Thomas as an example of someone cares about the constitution? Really?
You think that it should be ok for the gvmnt to tell you how you should act in your own bedroom? You believe that would be constitutional?
You believe segregation or even slavery are “constitutional” if your local laws say they are?
That’s insane.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
People are …
People are forgetting about drug seizure laws. They can take a private property owners property with drug seizure laws. This is why smoking in public is only individual risk.
I wish the political activist and the protesters would stop fighting with each other and work together. That is how the civil rights movement won their victories. It was a two prong attack on tyranny.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Democracy does …
Democracy does exist at the state level, that is how the founders wanted it. As far as adultery goes what about sodomy? People like Ron Paul and Clarence Thomas who actually care about the constitution opposed the Supreme Courts decision on Lawrence v. Texas. If local laws were changed I’d support your right to resist federal tyranny. If you can’t get your local laws changed then quit about it when cops enforce them or move somewhere else. You can go smoke pot freely in Amsterdam.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
The property owner …
The property owner risks much more then the individual smokers.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
“But I cant see how …
“But I cant see how smoking in an open air location would affect anyone with these conditions any more than the local traffic emitting exhaust from a tail pipe.”
My point with these examples: “affect anyone with these conditions any more than”
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
There are more …
There are more cigarette smokers on the streets of Keen than Marijuana. Why isnt that an issue. Or, is it really just about Marijuana? People dont need cars, just a bike, or their own legs. Keen in small. As far as the smoke from the stoves are concerned, an electric heater will work nicely, along with better winterizing of homes. Marijuana not being a necessity is relatively subjective, depending on ones health.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
You’re risking …
You’re risking getting “thrown in a cage” by smoking it in public. I would assume that someone in the crowd at the smokeout owns property. What difference does it make to them if they get hauled off a public space or private property to be “thrown in a cage?”
The reason you do it in public is for the publicity. And now that that’s quickly evaporating, I expect the public smokeouts will too.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Supposedly Keene …
Supposedly Keene does have a problem with smoke from wood stoves, but honestly, I’ve lived here for 7 years and I’ve never noticed it.
Obviously people need to burn wood to keep warm and drive their cars to get to places they need to go. These things are not really a luxury, but a necessity.
Marijuana is not a necessity so why should the public be expected to deal with the burden of it’s drawbacks (like 2nd hand smoke?)
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
They have to do it …
They have to do it on public property because if they did it on private property the owner of that property would get thrown in a cage.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Pre-existing …
Pre-existing conditions in people is a factor. But I cant see how smoking in an open air location would affect anyone with these conditions any more than the local traffic emitting exhaust from a tail pipe. Or houses that have fires a blaze in the stove, etc. In some towns, the smoke from stoves and fireplaces is quite thick in the air. Much more so than a fleeting exhale from a joint or a cigarette. If the smoke from a joint is the issue, then all other forms of smoke dispersal should be as too
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
I’m still not sure …
I’m still not sure weather i support having to defend peoples rights to marijuana.
But its better than the drug war which killed 4000 people in Mexico and made sure that America is still tethered to the military industrial complex. Which is the same as saying that the money keeps flowing in one direction and that war is good for business.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Failed drug tests …
Failed drug tests from cigarette smoke? Read my comment a little harder.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
I agree with you …
I agree with you that smoking marijuana should be legal. If people want to get high in their own home I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
But if a local gvmnt doesn’t want people smoking pot in a public place I really don’t see anything wrong with that either.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
“65-70 percent of …
“65-70 percent of the people in NH smoke marijuana.”
I can tell you it’s nowhere near that many. Even if you add in the people who have tried it once, or smoked only a few times….its nothing close to 65-70 percent. That’s wishful thinking crazy talk. Although, you might be close to accurate if you were talking about Vermont.
I’d say 25-35% is a more reasonable estimate. A lot of people, yes… hundreds of thousands even, but not anything close to a simple majority.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
You think 2nd hand …
You think 2nd hand marijuana smoke wouldn’t cause problems for someone with a pre-existing condition like asthma or emphysema?
You think that it doesn’t have the potential to cause a failed drug test for someone who happens to be unfortunate enough to be nearby?
Cars do exhaust carcinogens and pollutants and yes, gvmnt should be proactive in mitigating that to whatever reasonable extent it can (mandating better mpg efficiency, regulating emissions ect.)
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
And on the other …
And on the other side you have people that want to live their lives the way they see fit, without control freaks telling them what or what not to do. Change is inevitable. There is no stopping it. You can try, and pound your head against the tide, only to receive a concussion. A new Generation is dawning. And those whom are tied into the old will find the transition very painful. But it will come. Just like all the others. The bitter old man is born from resisting the inevitable.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Many also detest …
Many also detest Socialism, but still feed themselves at the local soup kitchen. So what.
Im sure that the residence of Keen; or any other town in this country, have created the local laws. I would say about 65 – 70 percent of people in the NH area smoke Marijuana. And since we live in a mob rule; sorry I mean democracy, then it should be legal by now. So why is it not? Did you know that in most states Adultery is illegal. So its all subjective. You have control freaks that want to control.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
“if it’s a known …
“if it’s a known proven fact that second hand smoke can cause health problems or even failed drug tests for people.”
You are lumping cigarette smoke and Marijuana smoke in the same category. I would like to see the data that second hand Marijuana smoke causes health problems. The exhaust from your car is a carcinogen that everyone else has to suffer the effects from, but I ‘highly’ doubt that you will contest that driving a car is giving people health problems.
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Outside? How long …
Outside? How long would you have to stand around?
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Why exactly …
Why exactly shouldn’t a gvmnt have the authority to ban smoking in public places like the Keene central square if it’s a known proven fact that second hand smoke can cause health problems or even failed drug tests for people.
Should a gvmnt not have the authority to ban people from drunk driving on public highways too?
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
Yeah I suppose it …
Yeah I suppose it is, yet I still don’t like it. a store where people are would seem like a public place. Being drunk in grocery store would not count as public drunk?
January 17th, 2010 at 11:06 am
That is a whole …
That is a whole nother issue. Cigarettes are legal and yes bad. But only businesses should hold the right of a smoking ban on their property, not government.